Tulpa.info - tulpa-questions

Nope

8:28 AM

When I usually ask a question and then wait for a response, l don't get anything, no thoughts or emotions

i didnt either, but when i started trusting the "reflex" responses i "gave myself" it started developing (edited)

8:30 AM

it starts by feeling like you're parroting, but you actually aren't because parroting is intentional and has thought behind it

8:30 AM

like "what's your favorite color - hmm what would my tulpa's favorite color be, green sounds about right, but red suits better - red" (edited)

8:31 AM

but if its like "what's your favorit- red"

8:31 AM

its the tulpa

8:31 AM

it still feels like it comes from you

When I ask l don't get any thoughts after l ask the question my mind will be blank

maybe you could try to stop "waiting" for it and let your thoughts run

Okay, l'll try that. Thank you for helping

its like you let yourself think about random stuff that pops up and there might be something that sounds like the tulpa, and you just run with it and assume its them

8:35 AM

also the answers and thoughts can be inconsistent and nonsensical at first, thats just how tulpas are at first

8:36 AM

you're basically training your unconscious rng thought generator to give answers that align more with the tulpa

8:36 AM

and soon you'll recognise them without much thought

Thank you so much

np

8:39 AM

there might also be intrusive thoughts too, so dont assume everything is the tulpa, especially at first, but dont doubt too much either

8:39 AM

if its malicious or makes you feel weird or bad, its not them

aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae

but if its like "what's your favorit- red"

Hmm... we get this alot... we may be closer than we think with alyssu

aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae

thoughts that pop up right as you're asking or talking to them?

This is actually a common thing that I myself have experienced. As you’re formulating the question in your mind, the tulpa answers that before you can even properly communicate it to them. It’s a sign that they’re developing. It may feel like you’re parroting, but that’s just because they aren’t completely separate from you yet and are just hijacking your mind voice because it’s most likely the most optimal medium of communication for them. In time, their mind voice becomes more distinct from yours; what you’re experiencing is just a step towards that. Don’t worry about it all too much. (edited)

Lucilyn: again, parroting is not the boogeyman of tulpamancy like everyone thinks of it (edited)

1:50 PM

parroting is (ONLY) intentionally imagining your tulpa speak, an optional method for getting your brain used to how your tulpa will sound/act/etc.

1:51 PM

you CANNOT accidentally parrot

1:51 PM

wishy-washy "Was that my tulpa, or me?" thoughts are generally necessary to the start of tulpa vocality

1:51 PM

they can't just start fully vocal, there has to be an in-between (for most people at least)

1:52 PM

Think "That could be my tulpa", "My tulpa wouldn't say that/that was just random thought", and "That was just me" when appropriate to teach your mind what thoughts should be whose

1:52 PM

but if you just constantly doubt, your tulpa's vocality will never get off the ground (edited)

1:53 PM

after a while, your tulpa's thoughts/voice will start to sound more distinct over time, until eventually it's impossible to mistake them for yourself (edited)

1:55 PM

a sapling might blend in with grass at first, but if you keep cutting it down because it doesn't look like a tree, it'll never get a chance to grow into one

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big brain analogy

Reisen

wishy-washy "Was that my tulpa, or me?" thoughts are generally necessary to the start of tulpa vocality

Thanks, lumi

Lucilyn: wow some people really only see avatars huh (edited)

2:03 PM

we can't change our avatar on discord to pictures of us because our friends and people in other servers would get suspicious

As in the system

and we don't use the bot because we like clickable/@'able profiles, and searchable message history

ringgggg

As in the system

Lucilyn: oh, well Lumi is what my host goes by (edited)

It was just out of convenience

you can call me Luci

My bad

having our own avatars would be nice, but custom server profile avatars requires $100/yr Nitro :(

No, no, I see your point

2:06 PM

The whole Nitro thing isn’t really worth it

Discord really isn't deserving that kind of money recently

Reisen

having our own avatars would be nice, but custom server profile avatars requires $100/yr Nitro :(

Jeez.

Sorry, didn’t mean to derail the conversation there

Lucilyn: It's okay, the topic was finished so I just said whatever (edited)

2:10 PM

we'll probably link back to what I just wrote when people ask similar stuff in the future

Makes sense

if someone from the future is still reading, hi

Does anyone have an actual preference of what they do to active force?

i like to sit down on the couch so i dont get distracted by anything else

I mean, the main premise is just to focus on the tulpa, but there’s many different ways to go about that

Lucilyn: we always just recommend (and personally do ourselves) talking, nothing special (edited)

also keep my phone away

2:12 PM

yeah

talking to your tulpa about stuff that's on your mind or what's going on in your life, and holding the intent for them to be listening and intending to respond (maybe sending tulpish thought-feelings before they can actually speak words)

2:13 PM

is the core practice of tulpamancy

True

Lucilyn: you can succeed by doing literally nothing but that (edited)

2:13 PM

everything else is just preference or tricks

2:14 PM

just remember TO keep your tulpa in focus, talking to yourself absentmindedly doesn't do anything for tulpa development

active forcing is just doing nothing but talking to a tulpa so you do nothing while active forcing.

Lucilyn: technically doesn't have to be talking, active forcing is any time spent 100% directly focused on your tulpa, so talking, wonderlanding/visualizing, personality forcing (optional ofc), whatever else (edited)

Rusty

active forcing is just doing nothing but talking to a tulpa so you do nothing while active forcing.

Wouldn’t really just chalk it up to that. I think there’s potential for so much more, like making the tulpa your meditation object

Lucilyn: while passive forcing is vaguely spending time with your tulpa in any given way, but with less direct focus, so talking to them without much focus or whatever (edited)

2:16 PM

idk, passive forcing is kind of a useless term in our opinion

2:16 PM

it just confuses people because so little qualifies as "passive forcing" instead of just being forcing

2:17 PM

most people use passive forcing to refer to activities that honestly just aren't contributing to development at all or to activities that should just be called (active) forcing (edited)

How about drawing the line between conversational practice and focusing on the ‘essence’ slash ‘feeling’ slash ‘aura’ of your tulpa? It’s a weird thing to mention, but I like to think of it like how people make you feel a certain way after talking to them

both are perfectly fine

It makes them feel more ‘human’ in that regard

Lucilyn: it's usually easier for people to start out expecting thought-feelings (tulpish) from their tulpa rather than clear words, and then tulpas who can clearly send intentful/meaningful tulpish usually have an easier time transitioning into full vocality (edited)

2:19 PM

though some systems do keep on communicating with tulpish past the developmental stage

2:19 PM

generally that thought-feeling intent just comes automatically quietly tied to actual words though (edited)

sometimes we dont even bother putting things to words

2:19 PM

its like yea i get what you mean

It’s moreso the feeing attached to the tulpish

2:20 PM

Which is what Luci is implying is important..? (edited)

2:23 PM

I’ve had multiple objects represent A3 in the past, each with their own feelings attached. It’s like talking to the same person with a different face every so often. When I sit down to active force, the goal is to make sure each of these ‘totems’ don’t feel too distinct from each other so that it seems like I’m talking to multiple different people

2:26 PM

Making the switch to move away from physical objects is difficult. I’m so used to seeing A3 represented in the physical world that it makes it hard to see her in any other light

i dont have to even really remember to do it anymore

2:28 PM

we just talk

2:28 PM

although the past few days have been more quiet

wow some people really only see avatars huh

@Reisen - jump you mean all people

Lucilyn: no, we are literate and can read names (edited)

3:19 PM

also the color of names is basically an avatar of its own

3:20 PM

even out of the corner of your eye it's easy to differentiate turquoise Lucilyn and pink Tewi

you change name colors?

Lucilyn: I mean yes and it's extremely obvious, but I half don't blame you since each of us fronts for so long you just get used to each one lol (edited)

orrrr im just colorblind

then it would be hard to tell these apart too :P

3:26 PM

pretend the middle was tictac's

yes i do have copycats

3:27 PM

and i’m not ashamed of it!

Maybe someday I should write a guide on how I active force

3:28 PM

I just have to wait for my .info account to age a few years so that people actually take me seriously

(edited)

How about drawing the line between conversational practice and focusing on the ‘essence’ slash ‘feeling’ slash ‘aura’ of your tulpa? It’s a weird thing to mention, but I like to think of it like how people make you feel a certain way after talking to them

@ringgggg - jump i agree with that, in my view tulpamancy oractice is about developing the feel and insight, not using intellect. In my opinion the latrer just slows down the process and distracts

I find it a good way to flesh things out, but take it as you will. The process isn’t really concretely defined, it just worked for me

I just have to wait for my .info account to age a few years so that people actually take me seriously

@ringgggg - jump i’m not sure why you would worry for oeopke to treat uoj seriously. You would either help someone or not. All you can do is share your thoughts and hope it will help someone who resonates with it